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mhughes

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SPOILER ALERT:  PREY SERIES     MAYBE???

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No Spoilers in DARK OF THE MOON.  I am interpreting a spoiler as something that would give away who the bad guy is.  Not in that book at all.  Virgil Flowers is Sandford's way of creating a single main character without dispensing with Weather, Lucas's wife.

Virgil is thrice divorced, wears long hair and usually wears a t-shirt from a band that sort of deflects people from thinking he is a cop.  As Mike H said, Virgil reports to Lucas at the state level of investigations.  He is only supposed to get the hard ones--cases, that is.

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i really dont think its that important,  but weather being Lucas' wife is to me a spoiler.   being that in an early Prey book Lucas meets weather, they get together, then not together,  then in a few books later they end up together again and get married.....that to me is a spoiler.   and if,  and im not sure if its in the Flowers book or not,  weather is mentioned as Lucas' wife then it is a spoiler.  right??   maybe im wrong about what a spoiler is.....lol  i have been wrong before.    but like i told Keys,  i actually read Broken Prey first in that series,  then went back and read the rest so i knew and it really didnt matter much to me,  but to some it might.

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Marilyn pretty much answered my question. I just wanted to know what is already known about Flowers.
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SPOILER - to continue the theme!

I found out by accident that who Lucas married about 3 or 4 books before it happened and I considered that to be a spoiler. Based on the events in the earlier books like Winter Prey and the one were she can't bear to look at him etc, I didn't know who he would end up with it but having read a synopsis where it stated blatantly who his wife was, before I'd got to that point - I was quite disappointed - so yes, would consider that a spoiler but not one of great importance, depends how you feel about characters relationships rather than to plot.

Other than that, I think the Flowers books are off on their own, with Lucas making an occasional phone call.  I'm not even certain his wife is mentioned much (Davenport's I mean).  Ultimately, Joe, I think its safe to read the Virgil Flowers series without worrying too  much about the Prey series.  Virgil doesn't come into the Prey series until much later on anyway, probably only a couple of books before he started writing the separate spin off. 

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I could only find a copy of Dark of the Moon in bookmooch but my request for the only copy of the book was denied because the owner was an american who thinks the shipping cost alittle only for americans.  Selfish people in that site too often.  Why join a book giveaway site that is international if you dont want to....

Annoying i wont be able to join you guys for this book even though i was looking forward to join in the group read.
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Sorry to hear that Mohammed..  I don't know about international libraries but couldn't you ask for an inter-library loan at your library ?


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Sorry to hear that Mohammed..  I don't know about international libraries but couldn't you ask for an inter-library loan at your library ?



Inter-library loan system is usually a goldmine for me because our library dont have alot of english fiction.  John Sandford books in Swedish library system was only 6,7 of the Prey books.  I wouldnt use my hard earned Bookmooch points if i didnt have to. 

Sandford isnt big over here, Lehane,MC type authors i can find in any second hand store but not less popular american authors.
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OK, gonna throw in my 2 cents worth concerning spoilers:
  • I gave up trying to keep up with who Dave Robicheaux current wife is, but would consider it a spoiler if Clete is killed.
  • I would consider it a spoiler to learn in advance that Jack Reacher is having an affair with Anna Pigeon.  (Anna who the Reacher Creatures would ask.) 
  • I would not consider it a spoiler to learn in advance that Flowers is having an affair with Weather.  OMG, wouldn't that stir things up?
  • I would not consider it a spoiler to learn anything in advance about Grant County.  I already suspect that one of the major characters is gonna get it sometime.
  • I would consider it a spoiler to learn in advance that the canine character in Chet & Bernie is killed.
  • Would it be a spoiler to know before hand in the Gabriel Allon series that the Swiss and the Vatican during WWII were in cohoots with the Nazis?  The navie might consider that a spoiler.
With those comments, don't get me wrong, I enjoy the banter on this forum.  My advice, just don't take it too seriously. 

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Oh, Don!  The line about Jack Reacher and Anna Pigeon is priceless!   

I spoil things for myself sometimes by reading the book jacket of a book further along in aseries, one I haven't reached yet.  It is a stupid thing to do, I know, but sometimes I want just a glimpse of what is coming and get more than I really wanted.
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lol don.


yeah betty i do the same thing.  hate when that happens.  


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Don, Betty and Mike..  You guys kill me..  lol..  Anything more than a title and author can be a spoiler if you don't know it already..
 
Flowers and Weather.. OMG  Lucas will kill that "" Flowers.  lol..

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Oops, I just noticed that my fingers can't spell worth a darn.  It's NAIVE, not navie.  Oh well, y'all probably knew what I meant.  Surely you did, didn't you? 


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HI Don
I dunno ... maybe the navie DOES care about getting spoiled ... I mean, really, we're still singing about what to do with drunken sailors, now we have to deal with spoiled ones??

Oh and one more thing: your two cents worth is worth at least a hundred bucks!

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Oops, I just noticed that my fingers can't spell worth a darn.  It's NAIVE, not navie.  Oh well, y'all probably knew what I meant.  Surely you did, didn't you? 



I just figured that's how y'all down in Texas spelled it.
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Review for Spider Bones by Kathy Reichs.  No spoilers involved.

I just finished Kathy Reichs' Spider Bones and I have to say I was not thrilled with it.  There was very little action or tension to it and I was nearly bored reading it. The only interesting question was whose body was where and I figured out part of that early on. Ryan did have some good lines and there was a brief mention of the Bones TV series that had me laughing.  Still, this is, IMO, a very weak entry in the series. 

Now I have to say that I prefer the books that take place in Montreal and I'm not sure why that is.  This one takes place mostly in Hawaii, which is a lovely place, I know, because I was stationed there for three years in the early 90s.  Perhaps that even added to my boredom because I was already familiar with the sights and Hickam AFB and even some of the organizations mentioned, like the JTF-FA (Joint Task Force-Full Accounting) and its mission to recover the remains of missing Americans in southeast Asia.  Someone who is new to this information might find it fascinating (the work they do is fantastic) but I just kept wanting to get on with the story.

There are bound to be a few weaklings in every good series so I will hope for better with the next book.

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Received my copy of Dark of the Moon from the library and have read 100 of 400 pages. Ironic that it took our group book read for me to read my first Sanford even though I live in Minneapolis. No partial review from me, I'm waiting for Sept 17th to post my review.

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Spoiler Prediction:

Hey, Keys, where do you think Flowers gets his nickname?
It will soon be obvious.

I think I'll start throwing out these "Spoiler Predictions" to see how many false rumors can be started.   

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Spoiler Prediction:

Hey, Keys, where do you think Flowers gets his nickname?
It will soon be obvious.

I think I'll start throwing out these "Spoiler Predictions" to see how many false rumors can be started.   

I have read the book Don..  Spoiler predictions, what next ?  lol...


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I hate to spoil the prediction of the spoiler but I think Flowers is a pot head.
Get it, flower pot.... Actually I heard Flowers moved down to Blanco County. It's a mystery to me.

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LOL,,,,,good one, Jeff.


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I finished The Neon Rain by JLB and i must say i was impressed and not impressed at the same time.  Big plus was the Dave himself emotional,smart,destructive,he was so real that i didnt have to imagine him at all. Very goood overall when it comes to athmosphere,voice. Characters wise it was very good overall,i also liked how it wasnt dated to the 80s despite the South American connection.

Minus was that it wasnt a police book at all, it was written more like traditional PI with more modern,unconvential PI like Matt Scudder.  He reminded me off a Matt that wasnt drunk who didnt stop being a cop.  I didnt care too much that it wasnt written like a police story even if i was hoping for it.  The only real minus was that it was hard to picture his New Orleanes.  I couldnt see it in my minds eye too well.  I saw the characters well but not the city,parish,county whatever.

That part i think prolly improved since this was a debut novel of the series.
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HI Libaax
I think James Lee Burke writes about how and why people live and love and hate within their communities ... how they soldier on despite horrid events which either break their spirit or cause them to rise above it all.

Dave, The Policeman and Bait Shop Owner, is our eyes into Louisianna's history and culture.

I also think focussing too much on police procedure might break the cultural thread James weaves into every story.

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Very well said, Rose.


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  The only real minus was that it was hard to picture his New Orleanes.  I couldnt see it in my minds eye too well.  I saw the characters well but not the city,parish,county whatever.


If you want a taste of old New Orleans, read 'Heaven's Prisoners'..  Its the Big Easy at its best...

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Rose :

 I dont care about police story side because it wasnt really what i wanted. I just expected more because Dave is a cop series hero.  Only real problem was that NO wasnt so clear in my my minds eye.

Specially compared to James Sallis great Lew Griffin books where NO is like the main character.  I could see every corner,place very vividly.  JLB was focusing on  writing about the lighting,threes,water in a beautiful way.  Thats his thing.

I still rated the book  highly and i think it can improve .   When i compare it to Matt Scudder thats high praise

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HI Libaax
Well, when I go off on a tangent, I don't hold back, eh? ROFL

I have never seen New Orleans either but I once spent a fair bit of time googling various locations Jim talks about in his books ... I envy the sense of history and belonging that's basically missing in the areas of Canada settled by immigrants ... as an entity, my province (British Columbia) is just a baby, only 139 years old ... Canada itself was created four years earlier.

Some day, by goodness, I'll take a trip south and see for myself!!

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