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Yeah, being a movie fan I thought the premise of 'The Man in the Seventh Row' sounded interesting also. Hopefully I'll work it in sometime soon. I don't think you will be disappointed by 'Hurt Machine'.



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It is amazing to me that nobody is discussing Ebook News Today, which offers a bunch of free ebooks that  they normally charge for. So far I have downloaded;

Killing To Know by Sean Van Damme
The Abigail Affair by Timothy Frost
Black Flagged by Steven Konkoly
Enemies- Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken
Flat Crazy by Ben Rehder
Friends and Other Perishables by Dale Whisman
Grid Lock by Sean Black
As Song For The Asking by Steve Gannon

I downloaded them all to the Kindle app on my tablet.

Since they all sounded interesting, some of them should be pretty good.

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Good one here 'El Gavilan' by Craig McDonald is free on Amazon. I've enjoyed 3 of his books and will definitely be reading this one. 
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Deadly Stillwater by Roger Stelljes is still free on Amazon. This is a Mac McRyan kidnapping story that takes place in my home area of the Twin Cities. I read this before in hard cover but after a couple years it's fun to read a second time. Of course references to a familiar locale makes it a good read for me. I believe there are three in the McRyan series.
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Dakotapix - I noticed that book and wondered about it. Sounds like you recommend giving it a shot. 
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Yes, I would. I should have mentioned that it's also available free for the Nook reader as well as from the iBook site. Not sure if this author will continue writing. I understand he's an attorney and this was/is a sideline with him. Maybe this freebie is his way of seeing what kind of audience he has.

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Dakotapix - I noticed that book and wondered about it. Sounds like you recommend giving it a shot. 


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I have high expectations for Craig McDonald's 'El Gavilan'. Hope some others will pick it up and give his writing a try.
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Yup, Rockman, got than one today and will read after Stiilwater. This is actually a pretty nice way of finding new authors while our old favorites are writing new books. In my hard cover days I would browse the publishers' overstock shelves and read some unfamiliar writers without spending much.

This was the way I discovered both James Lee Burke and Michael Connelly, among several others.
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'Breaking Cover' by JD Rhoades and 'Wake up Little Susie' by Ed Gorman both free on AMAZON. 
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Dead Money by Ray Banks is free this weekend.    on Amazon it also includes the novella Gun.      

i read this book a few months ago and enjoyed it pretty well,  a nice noir story that moves pretty quick.


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I have high expectations for Craig McDonald's 'El Gavilan'. Hope some others will pick it up and give his writing a try.


I finished this one today and can recommend it. The story centers on relationships between law enforcement agencies and the Hispanic community in a medium-sized town in Ohio. My only concern was the lead character's first name which is "Tell." This frequently led to some confusing sentences but I finally got used to it. Hope you like it as well, Rockman. Good tip for a freebie.

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Coming soon, hopefully, some lower prices on ebooks:

U.S. Alleges E-Book Scheme

Lawsuit Says Apple, Publishers Colluded to Raise Prices; Three Will Settle

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304444604577337573054615152.html



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E-books shouldn't be expensive, once you've bought one it gets sent electronically, which is fast and convenient and that's great but you don't actually have it in your hand, you can't put it on a bookshelf when you're finished reading it, you can't borrow it to anybody, it's like you don't really have it kind of. Since I've had my Kindle it's been a little surprising to me that a lot of books have been so cheap or free, I bought the 3 Jack Davis books by Joel Goldman, I paid 3.99 or it possibly could have been 2.99 each I'm not sure now it was a while ago, anyway the point is they were what I considered very cheap and they were really worth it, they were good reads and if they cost more than that chances are I wouldn't have bothered buying them and since then I've bought quite a lot of books where I've never paid more than 3.99, I'm not paying more than $8.00 for an e-book, because I can get the real thing cheaper than that through fishpond.com, I just have to wait for it to get to me.
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Coming soon, hopefully, some lower prices on ebooks:

Sounds like some are being fined and others are fighting ... That may keep the prices up ?


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A few freebies that I've picked up lately. Haven't read Edgerton or Hallinan yet, but I like D. Zeltserman.

'The Perfect Crime' by Les Edgerton
'The Four Lost Things' by Timothy Hallinan
'Fast Lane' by Dave Zeltserman
'By Hook or By Crook' -Best Crime and Mystery Short Stories of the year which includes a SS by Dennis Lehane among others.


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not a freebie,  but worth mentioning!!   Craig Johnson has just released a short story,  Divorce Horse.    according to his email,  he thought it might be a nice opportunity for a connecting tissue between novels.     

3.99 at amazon,  says its 51 pages.   we will see....im gonna try to read it tonight. 


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Coming soon, hopefully, some lower prices on ebooks:

Sounds like some are being fined and others are fighting ... That may keep the prices up ?



A day or so ago in court, Apple's lawyer told a federal judge that the company denies the charges made by the DOJ. They wish the matter to go to trial. So yes, they're fighting it.

In a few press accounts I read, analysts (experts) commented that the government's position against Apple is weaker than that against the publishers. Several publishers will also challenge the charges in court.
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Who am I but just an ereader but I saw the writing on the wall a couple years ago.  I hope Apple fights it and loses.  To me, it's all about (price) competition and that stopped when Apple jumped into the ballgame.  
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Who am I but just an ereader but I saw the writing on the wall a couple years ago.  I hope Apple fights it and loses.  To me, it's all about (price) competition and that stopped when Apple jumped into the ballgame.  

I'm not sure what writing you think you saw on a wall, but I believe you have it completely backwards. Who you (as an ereader) should be worried about is Amazon, not Apple.

Amazon has been trying to establish and keep a VERY high ebook market share, and are doing so by offering prices lower than others are willing or able to meet. Publishers and authors have been unhappy with Amazon's prices.  As Amazon grows to get a Kindle in significantly more homes, and as they slam the door on others trying to compete, they will be able to dictate prices, terms, and do most anything they want. Just as Amazon has been doing with print books for some years, which is why today there are so many fewer bookstores than there were even 5 years ago. I don't know if that bothers you, but it should.

I think Apple is #2 in market share, but its share is less than half that of Amazon's. With Apple as a viable participant in the ebook market, there is MORE competition, not less. I don't take this lightly, because I'm not generally an Apple fan, but Apple is really the only company in a position (because of the success of iPads) to check Amazon's moves. Their doing so will protect the viability (and competitiveness) of the ebook market for all participants. I want them to be successful in doing so.

DOJ's position and actions have the potential to do far more harm than good. They've been told that, I have no doubt, but there's politics involved. Hopefully common sense will prevail and they will back off.

If you don't like paying a fair price for books, then get them at a library. No one should root for free or unreasonably cheap ebook prices, that's not a formula that will allow a healthy situation for publishers and authors.
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Who am I but just an ereader but I saw the writing on the wall a couple years ago.  I hope Apple fights it and loses.  To me, it's all about (price) competition and that stopped when Apple jumped into the ballgame.  

I'm not sure what writing you think you saw on a wall, but I believe you have it completely backwards. Who you (as an ereader) should be worried about is Amazon, not Apple.


This discussion seems to come down to the price to charge for an ebook.

Does the agency pricing model eliminate price competition?

Should ebooks be priced at a pegged level so as not to make paperbound (hardcover) books lose its foothold in the big scheme of things since publishers need them to operate profitably (ie overhead)?

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This discussion seems to come down to the price to charge for an ebook.

Exactly right!

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Does the agency pricing model eliminate price competition?

The model is irrelevant other than technical accounting/financial reporting consequences for the companies involved. If Amazon handles as buy/sell, it has revenue of $10, keeps $3, and publisher has revenue of $7. If as agency, publisher has revenue of $10, pays Amazon $3 (which is then A's revenue) and keeps $7.  Each gets exactly the same money either way. Agency was Amazon's form over substance response to publishers complaining about declining "revenue" in their financial statement. Amazon says "we'll structure it as an agency, so that you have higher revenue from the same transaction (though earning the same $$$ in the end)

Consumer pays 10, Amazon keeps 3, publisher keeps 7, it completely doesn't matter.

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Should ebooks be priced at a pegged level so as not to make paperbound (hardcover) books lose its foothold in the big scheme of things since publishers need them to operate profitably (ie overhead)?


I'm not sure what you mean by "pegged", but an ebook is just another distribution medium, like each of the others. Using the words paperback, ebook, audiobook, hardcover complete the following sentence - I buy ____________ because I prefer that format to  _______ and ______ . Publishers don't care, they want to sell books to you, for a fair price, in whatever format you want.

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PS - I made up the numbers in the example above, I don't know if that's the right split or not. It doesn't matter, my purpose was to illustrate how the split would work. Ultimately, the "model", whether agency or otherwise, has no effect on the economics to the parties involved.

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Is the buy/sell scenario explained in your post based on the old (wholesale) model?

As for the 'pegged' comment, I was asking about the publisher's desired price point difference in hardcover vs ebook.  To peg all formats, I'm quite certain it would be (highest to lowest): audiobook, hardcover, ebook, paperback.

Do you know how the revenue of a hardcover and ebook breaks out, in general, for all parties involved (Amazon, publisher, author)?

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Is the buy/sell scenario explained in your post based on the old (wholesale) model?<br><br>As for the 'pegged' comment, I was asking about the publisher's desired price point difference in hardcover vs ebook.  To peg all formats, I'm quite certain it would be (highest to lowest): audiobook, hardcover, ebook, paperback. <br><br>Do you know how the revenue of a hardcover and ebook breaks out, in general, for all parties involved (Amazon, publisher, author)? <br><br>

Yes.

I think your ranking of relative prices is about right. Certainly profitability varies with each.

I don't remember, wasn't that 30 percent figure to Amazon under its "agency" deal discussed in the news or some press release? I otherwise have no personal familiarity with publishing though I do know some similar businesses pretty well.
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BLOOD WORK will be on sale for $2.99 in the USA on Wednesday, 4/25. This is a one-day-only sale.


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Amazon is currently selling the Matt Scudder series by Lawrence Block at reduced prices. The first book is 99 cents and most of the rest are $3.99. One of my favorite series and great bargain if you haven't read them yet.
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