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Titus Welliver’s Harry Bosch and will appropriately remain so. Now, who’ll play Renee Ballard, that’s the question for the 20’s. I propose...TAYLOR SWIFT!
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Taylor Swift? You’re kidding yeah...
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Maybe it is time to close this thread and start another one for different characters. Titus Welliver is now and forever, Harry Bosch, and rightfully so.
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I think the Taylor Swift suggestion has got to be a joke.
I think it should be someone with some islander ancestry.
How about Shannyn Sossamon?
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Yes, Welliver’s wed to the role of Heironymous “Harry” Bosch, and Well Be it, “Now & Forever.” Regarding Renee Ballard, Bosch’s young protege, the commitee of putative Casting Directors should include auteur #MichaelConnelly’s daughter, impapo. And, lastly this Dia de la Independencia de Mexico, I think Taylor Swift can more than handle NEARLY any female role she might choose to accept.
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Hi All, New to the board and I recently added Amazon Prime and we binge watched the first 5 seasons. It is very confusing for me having read some of the books (not in order) and not so much for my husband who had never heard of Harry Bosch.

The part I'm having trouble with is the time travel. The first book was published in 1992 and Harry was a veteran of Vietnam. A very different war and experience than Desert Storm. With the change some things were lost - his aversion to Asian food for one. His tunnel rat issues and other problems. By the time of the later books, Harry is a grizzled veteran who has retired, came back, retired, and is now volunteering.  

I need to go and read the rest of the books, reread the first ones and then do a new binge watch. Might be easier on understanding characters. 

All of that is to wonder, at what age are we seeing Harry in the television show? I think about the time of the first novel, which means rethinking the changes in LA since 1992. Some of Harry's experiences in the early days on the force were given to Barrel in Season 5 when he was telling war stories of his early days on the force. 

Since I've not read all of the books, I think Connelly left physical descriptions of most characters rather vague.
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Due to the fact that the TV series does not follow the timeline of the books, it is difficult to put a precise age on Harry.
Wikipedia has a a Harry Bosch page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Bosch#Television_series) that has a brief section about the TV series which appears to quote a page on https://www.michaelconnelly.com/bosch-tv/ that may not exist in the same format that it did when it was included in the article, or else his age is mentioned in one of Michael Connelly's videos.
Regardless, Wikipedia says that he is 47 years old in 2015 which means he was born in 1968 and will be 52 years old when season 6 comes out next year.
It also means that he entered the LAPD in 1995 and has been with the force the entire time except for the year he was serving in Afghanistan.
It also means that he was 23 when the Desert Storm began and was about 33 when he re-enlisted to serve in Afghanistan for a year after 9/11. He served in tunnels in both of those wars.
Since I believe Maddie will be turning 21 in season 6 then she was born in 1999 when Harry was 31 and was just a toddler when he served in Afghanistan.
In the books, Harry was 46 when Maddy was born so the TV series has them much closer in age than in the books.
For a point of reference, Harry would have been 52 years old in the book City of Bones and Maddie would have been 6, but City of Bones material was covered in season 1 of the TV series and Bosch is 47 and Maddie is 16.
In the books, he retired for the first time at the end of City of Bones, but in the TV series he has not yet retired from the LAPD.
I believe that some of Harry's early LAPD experiences were transferred to Barrel along with participation in the DROP program. 
You are correct that he does not have his aversion to Asian food.

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Ummmm, you're welcome? 😉
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I believe I read long ago that the reason Harry's background was changed from being a tunnel rat in the Vietnam war to an Afgan vet was age.  If the TV series had him as a Vietnam vet that would put him in his 70's  

Since Michael seems to want to keep the timeline intact it gives them more options for Harry's future.  
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I agree with turboguy on the reasons for the change in the TV series.
They wanted to have the series be up to date so they didn't have to try and create 1990s LA and they knew they weren't going to tell the stories in the same order.
That being the case, it made more sense to update his military service so he wouldn't be nearly so old at the current date.
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Hi Charming - I've been reading Michael Connelly's books, starting with the "Lincoln Lawyer" since 2011 & have read everything he's written including his short stories.  I think the best place to get your answers is from Michael himself.  I follow his website at MichaelConnelly.com & also his Facebook page.  I also fell across a long interview with him on YouTube.  It's always great to hear from  them about their writing & for him how he brought his books to film,  I couldn't find the one interview from earlier but I'm attaching an interview where he talks about how his books came to Amazon.  Titus is also in the interview & his take on Harry is very interesting.   
  I also wanted to say that once I read "Lincoln Lawyer", I'd fallen in love with his writing, looked to see what else he might have written, & discovered Harry Bosch.  The core of his series is Harry & they help you see his character grow much better when you read the books in order.  I think you will like the interview. 
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That's a great interview of both Michael Connelly and Titus Welliver about Harry Bosch in the TV series.
Thank you for sharing!
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Great interview, thanks for posting.

One thing about the series, and why I need to read more of the books - they choose one book to feature during the season and mix in elements of other books in the series.  By doing that the timeline of the original book series is not as important. 

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First of all, thank you for posting the interview! The first Connelly book I read was Blood Work after watching the movie, A lot of differences between the two and many people took exception to that back then. It got me reading the Harry Bosch books, many of which I have read several times. Someone posted that he was 47 in the first book and that sounds right. Every year, the character aged one year, like Dave Robicheaux in the James Lee Burke series. I think it would be great if MC would go back and and do some prequels. Anyway, the TV series is going to differ a lot from the books. Call it artistic license or practicality, if you want. The Vietnam war could no longer be used. It will be helpful, when you watch the show, to have read, the first several books in the series. 
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Harry was born in 1950 so he was 42 in the first book, The Black Echo, and is now 69 in the new book, The Night Fire.
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Okay I realize that it’s too late but I have never envisioned ANY actor playing Bosch except Billy Burke. Period.
Do you guys not remember that Bosch was a Tunnel Rat in Vietnam? Can’t be a hunky dude & do that. Also that Bosch is described as being “lean but strong”. I pictured him a bit wiry myself. And his eyes, very important to his appearance, are “brown almost black”. I don’t know Billy’s age but do know he can pull off being 60 or so.
Only other actor I could possibly see doing it would be Timothy Olyphant.
Just my two cents worth! 😉
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Billy Burke isn't bad, but he, like many of the suggestions, strikes me as too much the action hero/ladies man (even at 54).

I always thought of Harry as trying to avoid physical confrontation by staying two steps ahead of his adversary, but able to act decisively (and smartly) when confrontation became necessary.  Not the action hero type.  He's tough when he has to be but he's generally too smart to blunder into a situation where he has to fight his way out.

Also, Harry is not a pretty-boy or "ladies man".  He doesn't flirt with the ladies, except for the rare woman with whom he has a real emotional and intellectual connection.  A lot of the more famous names are just too good-looking to be Harry.

For me, the picture I formed in my mind years ago is so similar to Bryan Cranston I can't shake that image.  Look at some of the images of Cranston in the movie Trumbo.  The build is right, the mustache is right, and Cranston has the acting skills to pull it off.

Cranston's role in The Lincoln Lawyer as Detective Lankford was a pretty good audition for Harry.  One thing Harry is very good at is pissing people off and Cranston definately showed that side in his portrayal of Detective Lankford.

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He’d have to wear dark contacts! 😄 But he still isn’t built right for my personal idea of Harry.
Yeah I guess we all get a vision of someone in our heads when reading things.

BTW you consider Billy Burke & Timothy Olyphant “pretty boys”??????? Hmmmm 🧐
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Actually, I was referring to some of the earlier suggestions, like Tom Cruise, Robert Downey Jr, Brad Pitt, Hugh Jackman. Clive Owen, Kevin Bacon, etc.

Olyphant is definately "pretty" -- I don't mean that in a disparaging way, he's just too darn good-looking. Burke has a rough edge to him, but he's still a very handsome dude.

If Harry looked like either of them he'd be hooking up with every eligible gal in the LAPD, FBI, and LA-area newscorps -- much like the Lucas Davenport character in the John Sanford series. Note that Mark Harmon was nicely cast as Lucas Davenport is the John Sandford series. Olyphant and Burke would both be great choices to step into Mark Harmon's shoes in that series, but like Harmon, they're just too good-looking.

One of the things that makes Harry such a great character is that he's not your typical heartthrob that makes the girls swoon.  He's a loner, argumentative, brusque, and sometimes arrogant guy who bounces between unexpected compassion and a nasty streak, depending on whether or not he likes you.

 

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Jane, Is it possible to close this thread? We know who the perfect Harry Bosch actor is and that will not change.
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Jane, I agree with jbenham!!  The series has been done for 6 seasons & the 7th will be the last.  Michael is the author & the actor was his choice.  They went with his choice & the actor has done a great job.  Michael also said that the series wouldn't be following the books word for word.  This thread is "beating an dead horse"!!
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Oh Good Lord people! Some of us never put in our “two cents worth”. That’s all we were doing. We’ve done that now. Stop being so unfriendly.
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